tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post6077256715902859205..comments2024-03-29T12:07:15.085+00:00Comments on Roles, Rules, and Rolls: By the Way, Conan Never Leveled UpRoger G-Shttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08594440701279968693noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post-17276931886714523682012-03-29T08:25:43.009+01:002012-03-29T08:25:43.009+01:00Discussing this further last night with the same f...Discussing this further last night with the same friend, it occured to us that during the entire Lord of the Rings 'campaign' the characters barely level at all in D&D terms. The Hobbits start at level 1 and by the end I wouldn't say they were any higher than 3. They certainly grow and develop as characters but by the time he's destroyed the ring, Frodo is no more capable of fighting an Uruk than he was when he left the Shire.<br />Same for the other members of the Fellowship. Gimli, Legolas and Aragorn start at a reasonably high level but don't appear to improve signifigantly during the course of the 'campaign'.<br />I think this is a major contributor to why I'm not keen on progressing beyond Level 10-ish. To my mind, by the time you've adventured your way to level 10, you should have more story arc than Conan or Aragorn and by the end of their adventures, both of them were formidable kings. Anything beyond that just seems totally over the top for the sake of just being more powerful.Scarecrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00578596651133889962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post-51857898243589568122012-03-24T10:12:35.376+00:002012-03-24T10:12:35.376+00:00Wierdly this is almost the exact same thing I was ...Wierdly this is almost the exact same thing I was discussing with a friend the other day. He was lamenting 'laundry runs' in the Star Wars rpg, stating that it should always feel epic. If that's the case though, then the universe should be saved by the end of Level 3. Either that or, in the movies, Luke goes from level 1 to Level 17-ish in the space of half a dozen gaming sessions, more or less.Scarecrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00578596651133889962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post-47314656074472247172012-03-23T17:06:06.956+00:002012-03-23T17:06:06.956+00:00:)
You did notice my disclaimer. Just simply sayi...:)<br /><br />You did notice my disclaimer. Just simply saying somebody statted out Conan levels.<br /><br />But yeah, go 15 pages into ANY rpg as written and see if you don't come out with some nuggets like that.<br /><br />Part of the fun.xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17814063435676111475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post-83690666290495553812012-03-23T07:06:14.663+00:002012-03-23T07:06:14.663+00:00@frijoles: That's a solution (I'll touch o...@frijoles: That's a solution (I'll touch on that in the article) but one more associated with games like GURPS and Runequest than D&D.<br /><br />@ADD Grognard: Thanks for that, but it goes to show that little has changed in the disconnect between D&D stats and heroic fiction. So in Red Nails he has 190 hp and a Pathfinder stegosaurus has 90. If the story worked like D&D he and Valeria would have been dining on stego steak within the hour. (Maybe it was a more level-appropriate dire infernal colossal stegosaurus?)Roger G-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08594440701279968693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post-34133707700919991632012-03-23T01:15:10.041+00:002012-03-23T01:15:10.041+00:00You might find this interesting:
http://old.enwor...You might find this interesting:<br /><br />http://old.enworld.org/Inzeladun/conan.htm<br /><br />25 levels of Conan.<br /><br />(the link comes from here: http://hyboria.xoth.net/index.htm which offers a lot of material. I thought these were both well thought out. YMMV)xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17814063435676111475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post-70688897685605771402012-03-22T23:02:02.596+00:002012-03-22T23:02:02.596+00:00nice point.
At the risk of completely missing t...nice point. <br /><br />At the risk of completely missing the mark, since hit points are classically derived from a combination of con, level, and class, and level and class already grant survival benefits in being somewhat more likely to succeed when attempting an arbitrary gambit, why not cut out the middleman and take damage directly to con?frijoles juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01423720423119688947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post-32542398169675487432012-03-22T22:45:03.795+00:002012-03-22T22:45:03.795+00:00Very astute.Very astute.John Matthew Staterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02310914386482078369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4829093857574761981.post-87311775002106863762012-03-22T22:34:41.752+00:002012-03-22T22:34:41.752+00:00I'm looking forward to the next installment.I'm looking forward to the next installment.Treyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647628467658839351noreply@blogger.com